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		<title>Twitter Lists Support: Management Status &amp; Optimization Wishlist</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ageor</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I follow 2001 Twitter accounts (the limit Twitter inexplicably imposes for my number of followers). I have created some Twitter Lists and added some accounts in them, usually as I come across them. Twitter&#8217;s web interface leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to Lists management, so, this is a slow, painful process. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I follow 2001 <a href="http://twitter.com" target="_blank">Twitter</a> accounts (<a href="http://dipot.com/2009/11/twitter-unable-to-follow-more-people-following-2000-limit/" target="_blank">the limit Twitter inexplicably imposes for my number of followers</a>). I have created some Twitter Lists and added some accounts in them, usually as I come across them. Twitter&#8217;s web interface leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to Lists management, so, this is a slow, painful process. I had also created groups in <a href="http://Peoplebrowsr.com" target="_blank">PeopleBrowsr</a>, <a href="http://TweetDeck.com" target="_blank">TweetDeck</a> and <a href="http://code.google.com/p/pocketwit/" target="_blank">PockeTwit</a>. Having done part of the work to organize those I follow in Groups and Lists in a chaotic manner over time, I now wish for an easy way to bulk organize everything in Twitter Lists and be done with it. I wish for a Lists Manager that will let me optimize the process. While searching for it, I came across the following facts (please note that this is by no means a thorough survey; I just went through the clients I know of and use):</p>
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<li>Clients that support Twitter Lists
<ul>
<li><a href="http://seesmic.com/seesmic_desktop/windows/" target="_blank">Seesmic for Windows</a> now offers read only support</li>
<li><a href="http://socialwhale.com" target="_blank">SocialWhale</a> offers read and add support on a per user basis, like Twitter</li>
<li>PeopleBrowsr initially offered read only support and now also supports additions</li>
<li>TweetDeck was the last to market but offers the best support so far, including read, easily add and export of its own Groups to Twitter Lists</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Export the application&#8217;s Groups to Twitter Lists
<ul>
<li>SocialWhale asks users to import their preexisting Groups to Lists at login</li>
<li>TwitDeck fully supports copying Groups to Lists</li>
<li>PeopleBrowsr initially did the opposite; it copied Twitter Lists to PB Groups. It does not do it in the right direction</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Bulk-add accounts to Twitter Lists
<ul>
<li>Twitdeck shows a selected Group, List or the complete list of followed accounts and allows to multiple-select-and-import any account from all friends, TweetDeck&#8217;s own Groups or Twitter Lists to a Twitter List</li>
<li>PeopleBrowsr shows 16 accounts already in the Group or Twitter List with an &#8220;x&#8221; next to each one for one-by-one removal. To add an account to the List, one needs to manually type (part of) the names one by one and can&#8217;t bulk select them from a full list or PB&#8217;s own Groups</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Applications&#8217; own Groups vs. Twitter Lists management tools
<ul>
<li>Oddly enough, both TwitDeck and PeopleBrowsr have different Managers for their own Groups and for Twitter List</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>The winner, so far, is TwitDeck; hands down. The race is not over, though and neither is my work, as I still have the PeopleBrowsr and PockeTwit groups to convert to Twitter Lists. So, I am waiting for them to add a competitive Lists Manager that not just gets the job done, it also removes some of the pain that goes with it. Some optimization suggestions to that extend:</p>
<ul>
<li>Show the avatar, full name, site&#8217;s URL, following and followers along with account names</li>
<p>Long lists are difficult to handle just by a nick name.</p>
<li>Make the list auto resizing with the size of the window</li>
<p>The more the information available, the faster and easier the process.</p>
<li>Make it reliable and responsive</li>
<p>PeopleBrowsr often shows me a partial list of Twitter Lists and TwitDeck sometimes retries and fails to add accounts to Twitter Lists.</ul>
<p>With Christmas and New Year around the corner, it&#8217;s a good time for wishes to come true&#8230; Meanwhile, I will update this post will any relevant information I come across, so check back.</p>
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